We drove down to the breeder's place. It was a large kennel (an inside kennel,like u see at boarding kennels ) that was based around a small field. I think the breeder was running this as a business or something. She was really nice and professional. When we got there I saw her outside with about 10 shih tzu adults walking along side her, no barking , no bad behavior. It was a bit like how Ceaser Millan's pack follow him around LOL. We walked to the gate and she greeted us with all the dogs sniffing us curiously :). She pointed out the Mom and Dad who looked clean, healthy and happy and friendly.
We walked into the house and i caught a whiff of something, not poo but i quess it was the dogs. She showed us her license that she got from the concil and showed us the paperwork we'd get with the puppy.
Next we went to look at the puppy. It was apart the bulidling that had three separate kennels ( no huge and not too small for them). One had a lab in it who was nursing two young pups and next to it was the sweet little angels. 4 gorgeous little girls. At first they were shy but quite curious and they had just eaten so they were tired. The breeder , me and my mom sat inside with the puppies who were eagerly scampering around. the place where they were was not extremely dirty but a little messy ( no leavings on the floor) .the puppys seemed to be drinking out of a foundation type thing and that was pretty clean too. The puppys were 8 weeks btw!. We asked her a few question and she was happy to answer them.
She was correct about health issues and that shih tzus are generaly healthy dogs. She gave us lots of tips too.
The thing im worried about is if the pups were socialized well. She said that she lived in a small house so she couldn't take all the puppys home with her.
I picked out the puppy I liked. She was alert , clean and had no signs of illness. The pupz have been wormed and vacc. We get six weeks insurance, a puppy pack, a starter food pack and there's a 7 day refund.
This is the description on her ad:
Beautiful balls of fluff and fun. Pedigree Shih-tzu's. Not KC Registered. These puppies have been ethically produced and raised by a registered approved breeder with 30 years breed experience. They maybe viewed with both parents whom have fantastic temperaments. They are sold with a comprehensive package which includes : Three generation pedigree, puppy information sheet, starter feed pack, six weeks free insurance, vaccination and cert, and a 7 day full money refund guarantee in writing for any health issues subject to conditions. All puppies have been wormed and frontlined to date. Please note: As responsible registered breeders we do not, Offer puppies for re sale to the pet shop trade, except payment through the post, export, or deliver, so please don't ask. All prospective customers are asked to visit our premises in person for mutual approval.
I'll be picking her up on Sat :)
Sorry that this was so long .lol
Tell me what you think!
x Thanks :)Good Breeder? My visit to the breeders kennel?
There are two things that I would consider a red flag: Why aren't they KC registered if she can provide a 3 generation pedigree? If you are purchasing a purebred dog, you are entitled to the KC papers as PROOF of it being purebred. She may be providing you with a *hand written* pedigree, but she could write anything. If you had the KC papers, you would have the registration #'s of the parents, that could be traced through the KC. Now for the second thing: She gives a 7 day full money refund guarantee, BUT, that is subject fo conditions. Soooo, what are those conditions? She doesn't state what they are, so I guess she can make up whatever she wants to if something were to come up. Also, 7 days is NOTHING, since most *puppy health issues* take 10-14 days to show up......such as Parvo. All may look good on the outside, but, there are a few things that smell very fishy to me. You asked, so I told you my opinion.Good Breeder? My visit to the breeders kennel?
It is a puppy farm! albeit not one of the really nasty ones. Please don't line the pockets of a puppy-farmer. This person is breeding dogs as a cash-crop, not for the love and advancement of the breed. Her dogs are unshowable which means that she will not feel the need the to choose her breeding dogs carefully and your new pup could end up with very poor health and may not look like the breed standard. For a very similiar price you could probably by a pup from a good breeder who has beautiful and health-checked KC reg dogs, or even better, you could rescue a dog who really needs a good home.
There are many dog-lovers in Britain who are working hard to end the puppy-farming business, the puppy-farmers and back-yard breeders have created a heart-breaking problem of dog-overpopulation which inevitably leads to thousands of homeless dogs and the death of dogs whose only crime was to be born to make money for their breeder. Good breeders never breed for profit, they only breed to improve their breed and will sell those they won't keep to good homes.
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They're responsible, registered breeders and yet they don't register their litters? Sorry, that sounds like a serious case of bad breeding.
I don't care how well they treat their dogs, if they can't get appropriate testing for their adults, get them CH, register the litters, socialize them properly, and send them off with a lifetime health guarantee, they are scummy.
And what does a three generation pedigree mean?Good Breeder? My visit to the breeders kennel?
Not KC registered?
Dont do it. This shows she isn't reputable.
Cavalier Gal.
Red Flags
-Not registered
-Small breed pups going home before 12 weeks
-No guarantee against genetic issues.
-No mention of her actually showing you that the parents had had the proper genetic clearances done for their breed.
-No mention that the dogs are being shown.
-No mention of WHY the pups won't be KC reg'd
Personally I would be looking elsewhere.Good Breeder? My visit to the breeders kennel?
Sounds like a good breeder to me but has she done any genetic health testing on the dogs before breeding them? She should be showing certificates of both her Dam %26amp; Sire's genetic tests. If she has then this breeder is definitely recommended but though I would say, there are better breeders out there...
ADD: Oh wait! No "KC" means not AKC registered? Oh, if not then don't buy from her because your pup will be known as a mixed breed. There's nothing to prove that she is a Pedigree. And if her dogs are not registered as well, then how is she going to show their 3 generation Pedigree?
Why buy a registered puppy?
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Why are the pups not registered with a legit kennel club? That raises a big red flag. Perhaps the "breeder" has done something illegal and is banned from registering the pup? Something isn't right here. I think that I'd move down the road and find a breeder who has registered dogs.
My criteria is very simple. *What else do they do with their dogs besides breed them*? If all they do is breed then it isn't a place that I would want to get a pup. If they are not showing them, working them, hunting with them, or doing something, ANYTHING ! ! !, then they are just a "Greeder" and not a breeder.
"not KC registered" is a red flag.
i wouldn't do it.
I wouldn't touch UN-REGISTERABLE CRAP made by BYBs!!!!
Nope - sounds like a commercial breeder out for profit. Would RUN away, not walk.
Here's why:
1) Kennel - responsible breeders keep their dogs WITH them in the home to monitor and work with them from day one. IF the pups are raised in a KENNEL then they have NO experience in the home - meaning you will have a nervous, fearful mess of a dog when you bring it home.
2) The simple fact she can't take the pups home because there are "too many". Reputable breeders have 1-2 litters at a time to properly care for and work with them - 3-4 per YEAR.
3) No AKC registration. Means neither parent are show quality dogs and are probably from scummy breeders themselves. Means no standard, which can make some physical issues worse (such and jaw structure, breathing problems, skin, etc) OR are from good ones and this person is disregarding the spay/neuter policy ALL reputable bred dogs come with if they are not show quality.
4) No mention of genetic testing OR guarantee against genetic diseases (should be four year minimum as they cannot be tested until two years of age, with life being preferred.)
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